Altec A7 You cannot paste images directly. The A7 (pictured here) is I still think the best driver for the Khorn is the later K55V or K55M. for using as a mid-range horn 511 is better but in a two-way like M19 811 sounds better because the smaller horn pronounces higher frequency better than 511, use some bitumen as dampening material outside of 511 and it'll sound more open with no honkiness and ringing. The original KHorns I most recently sold to a friend in southern Illinois, who is ecstatic about them. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. The La Scala has the BAD K400 squawker horn from the Klipschorn and the Cornwall has the higher LOL.. Altec This item is sold As-Described and cannot be returned unless it arrives in a condition different from how it was described or photographed. each and is known to produce a sound pressure level of 105 dB with just 1 watt. (You must log in or sign up to reply here. Notice how you can't name a single one that doesn't? I can't wait to hear this setup! It's reality. Even our host has spoken at length about horn shout on this very forum. With that said I think there are much better Altec Midrange Horns and Drivers than are in the Stock Khorn. Personally I don't like them. They are two ways, and I think they 'lose' some of the music that a good three way like the Klipschorn can prov He was thrilled. He has them in a very large room and they sound very nice as it is, but there is definitely room for improvement. altec Dorsey knows cinema sound inside and out, and in this article he shares his personal thoughts about these highly valued horn designs, and provides valuable tips on how to restore them. Either way, "shout" is not a term that I would personally describe the sound of Altec horns, other than making a reference to basic sonic characteristics that are inherent in any horn loaded speaker system. dkalsi In at least one pitting of the Altec A7 against the Khorn, the Khorn had considerably better very high frequency response, even though both did not extend much beyond 15K Hz. Your previous content has been restored. Well you'll see lots of guys around here modding their Klipsch speakers with various Altec compression drivers, horns and woofers but I've NE Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Dr Morbius a new pair of Khorns will sound fabulous. View similar gear from other sellers on Reverb. I had an Altec 19 for myself much years ago , I compared these pair of Altecs with a K-horn . Clear editor. Your link has been automatically embedded. YMMV. Altec Affiliate programs and The crossovers are ALK designed.The speakers are currently equipped with K-401 horns and K-55 drivers.I am thinking about switching to Altec 811B horns and 808 8A drivers.Can I do this without modifing the crossovers? You can post now and register later. One nice thing about this dilemma is that if you buy used speakers of this quality at a reasonable price, you can live with them for a few months or years and get most or all of your money out of them when you sell them. We will let you know in advance of AK going offline during the upgrade install. Vintage Beat: The Altec Lansing You'll have to listen for yourself and see what "does it" for you. They have the most advanced crossovers which are really fine tuned for the drivers. You can build better new for under $700 a pair plus rational-size DIY cabs. :yes: http://community.klipsch.com/forums/p/91402/1318610.aspx, (You must log in or sign up to reply here. The Khorn would be pushing it to get to 450Hz on the upper crossover point, IMO. I suggest a new Altec 902 from Great Plans Audio. Klipsch vs Altec - Audiokarma Home Audio Stereo Clear editor. In my personal opinion the K-horn is , as I ca. I'm also thinking about replacing the T-35 tweeters with Beyma CP-25s. We will let you know in advance of AK going offline during the upgrade install. The Klipschorn Ak6 is a three-way, fully-loaded speaker with a greater than average sensitivity and size. Which is why, I have a preference for running multiple systems at the same time, When I am running my A7's with tube amplification, I am also running two other systems with conventional designed tower speakers, powered by solid state amps. Altec spec sheets show 30hz- 20khz freq response, Khorns show 33hz- 17khz. By definition, then, the one on the left is an A7 type. [:-*] It is not the only hammer in the toolbox. The box defines the woofer horn, so the only part left Yes, I know it's the sound that matters most but when you're talking about $15,000 speakers (CORRECTION! Your previous content has been restored. That would be like saying that you disagree that we are on planet earth. Those wooden horns look very cool. What do you recommend? I replaced the stock Midrange Horn of the Khorn with a pair of 1005B Altec horns with 288-16K drivers. They are making new ones for original Altec tools. The Altec Lansing A2 'Voice of the Theatre' loudspeaker combines two 210 low-frequency cabinets with four 515E drivers, and one 1005B horn with two 288-16K high-frequency compression drivers - a theater classic! The passive All of the different speakers & various amps have been a wonderful learning experience along the way, I was financially fortunate enough to take my hobby & Klipsch journey to Mr. Pauls final creation,. sounding Altec A7 Voice of the Theater VOTT speakers for PA / band use or LARGE audiophile home audio system. You may want to slack off a little, so your positive comments regain an appropriate level of credence. The Klipschorns are built with the K-401 mid horn. Altec Model 19 vs . Klipschorn - The Klipsch Audio Community Are they really that different??? No mean feat. Sectoral horns only available for the A7's. It's fine when when within the scope of purchase, but when brought up all the time, and recommended for consideration when thousands over budget, multiple friends have indicated in passing that excessive Klipsch shilling is almost as bad as the Bose bashing. Was that a tough job fittin' them in the Khorn??? WebVoice of the Theatre A7-500-8 For smaller theatres, or where space is at a premium for multitrack systems, the A7 is the choice. Take heart, there will soon be an answer to the WAF and the horn upgrade! What driver would you recommend for the 511B horn? Your previous content has been restored. On the Altec Lansing forum, it may be the opposite. very different. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Discussion in 'Speakers' started by SixCats!, Dec 20, 2006. Altec Midrange Horn System - Transform your Klipschorns Truth be told I've never listened to a pair of Khorns but I do have the Cornscalas and am blown away by their openness and clarity so, along with my HH Scott amp and Empire turntable connected to the new Khorns.well let's say I'll be a very happy man - and the wife too as she loves the sound of the Cornscallas as well as how the Khorns are set into the corners of the room. Sound 80 mix-masters could achieve 110+dB at the console. I have had my Khorns since 1982, and I'm still experimenting. Both companies make speakers lots of people like. Waiting on Xenforo to set a date for installing the upgrades. For the Belle you can do better. The Klipschorn is all horn-loaded (the Heresy is not in the woofer), weighs 175 lbs (each) and stands 51 inches tall. My concern is the motorboad for my La Sclala's, I think I will need a new mount for my K77 outside the HF section.". They just disappear into the corners! When you post a question like yours on the Klipsch Forum, you will find many respondents that prefer Klipsch speakers. However- I do NOT recommend that combination. But saying that you disagree with my statement makes no sense. Are the Vintage altecs as desirable as the klipsch seems to be? Full fledged folded horns of Klipsch don't have the step down in the curve as the Altecs do inw their straight axis short horn/bass reflex combo, where the rear radiation of the cone attempts to put out as much sound as the front horn, which, of course, it can't. You need to talk with Al Klappenberger of ALK fame, I think that he's got all of that in his Belles. i'm currently using the one built as a drop in replacement for LaScala. Clear editor. I'm going to approach this from a FAST/WAW perspective with an Altec 511B metal horn providing the critical range of frequencies rather like a full range driver would in some of the popular FAST/WAS projects in the Full Range forum here. I would stick with full fledged horns. Of couse, I am wasting my breath on a Klispch forum typing thishaha. I will always love my altecs. First off, and IMO very importantly, the 19s have much better extended HF responseinfact, the Khorns don't go much over 17k. Based on your location, we've changed your settings: GREAT!!! Absolutely not.what a silly question.[] Your previous content has been restored. Copyright 2022 Klipsch Group, Inc. These were Klipschorns, Jubilees and LaScalas. The jubs have been in the house about 7 months now, & I have only listened, have not even started the cosmetic plans of staining the center panel's to match walls & still kicking around different options for grill cloth etc. In my experience, the Model 19 is preferable to either Klipsch speaker I owned. i can perfectly visualize what you are describing thank you for taking the time to help me understand something that maybe fundimental to others. Add to cart. Spec sheets are not as helpful as they sometimes seem. Dr Morbius: It looks like, as of June 2, you still haven't bought anything. I have never been of the opinion, that any speaker is best at everything, including my A7's. The classic look of this iconic loudspeaker is completed through the use of retro software luster grill cloth that includes a cast zinc Klipschorn logo. I have a few other sets of speakers thru out the house (Cornwalls, Pioneer, Sansui, Advents) & enjoy them all for what they are. A7s or Model 19's, both sound mushy compared to Khorns. Set of 2 Two Vintage Altec Lansing A7 Speakers Wood Cabinets . They all sound good and they're all different. Yes, the A7s didn't have a great low frequency response, and their high end response was only as good as the khorns. Altec spec sheets show 30hz- 20khz freq response. What crossover frequency were you planning on using? Display as a link instead, Subwoofer to match Klipsch La Scalas The midrange is from the direct-radiating cone woofer and not from a horn-loaded absorbers & diffusers -- or at least a few wall hangings and Altec Horn System Transform your Klipschorns Complete Midrange Swap for Klipschorn. They are even more efficient than the Altec A7's, which have a maximum efficiency of 103dB. ). Klipsch Khorn or Altec Lansing model 19 I can't listen to the Klipsch for very long periods of time on SS. So I took the best of both worlds. I have Model 19s in the downstairs kitchen, and modded 63 Khorns in the man cave, and they both are outstanding. I'll upgrade it with some Amphenol RCA and WBT binding posts and Mundorf silver-gold caps. I said that because any time anyone mentions obtaining Klipsch on other forums, you ALWAYS mention Jubilees if you post in the thread. Just because you/me/anyone might already know about them doesn't mean he does. Display as a link instead, LaScala AL5 vs Klipschorn AK6 - The big ones Yes, the A7s didn't have a great low frequency response, and their high end response I just got a pair of 19's after years of looking and they are just great. They can take power better than an original Altec 19 network. IMO, PWK's most significant contribution, really a triumph in audio, was the K-horn. This is a win-win situation. Last edited: Apr 26, 2022 Condition: Used Used. Powered by Invision Community. But the RFs cross at 2000hz and even higher. June 12, 2007 in 2-Channel Home Audio. 1) Timbre shifts due to SPL polar control issues vs. frequency - with particular emphasis on both vertical and horizontal polar patterns that are bandpassed due to loss of polar control. What they share is their horn design and their efficiency. That is why so many "tweakers' swap them out for Altec, JBL or other drivers. it sounds ultimately good and accurate. So much of your preference depends on your listening habits, the kind of music you prefer, your room, electronics, etc. I agree that the Khorns are good speakers, but I wonder if some of you are hearing the same 19s that I am hearings. Altec specs are also not necessarily useful. As for tonal balance and voicing, well that varies Arash another thing about Altecs, its hard to find amps that will make them sound their best. Altec 2.8k. could you say more about your experience with jubs? As everyone says, a lot depends on the room, especially with Khorns. on the Khorn, there is plenty of room on to the side of the tractrix horn for just about any tweeter you'd want to use. We will let you know in advance of AK going offline during the upgrade install. Therefore, of course I agree. Q-man and Rick are both excellent resources on this subject. While the K77 does not extend as far as the aforementioned tweeters, it is a little more toned down/mellower by comparison? Just an observation, but i find it kind of interesting how many of those who have arrived at 19's have owned Cornwalls at some point along their journey. Altec Voice of the Theatre Powered with Mc240 or audio refinement SS amp. 811 sounds just like 511 but 511 has a higher cutt-off frequency. There will be a reasonably integrated inpulse response compared to the Auditorium 23 and the Klipschorn where the tweeter leads the mid by so much. Bloody awesome info! Vintage Klipsch Heritage vs. Altec Lansing speakers - First Listen WebSomething that needs to be mentioned is that the Altec A5, A6 and A7 use the same main cabinets, the 828. First let me say my post ( Mdl 19 is a two way, perhaps we should be comparing it to the Klipsch The difference between A5 and A7 is the HF horn: the former uses one of the multi cells, the latter the sectoral type horn. Would the mod to your boards be tough? glad to hear you are enjoying the Altecs. I have consistently found that I 'like" whatever is new in my listening room. Your purchases also help protect forests, including trees traditionally used to make instruments. They are HUGE and so is their sound. They have the most advanced crossovers which are really fine tuned for the drivers. I don't have the Model 19's but do have the Model 18 with the 604 8H driver and prefer the mids over the Khorns.The mids are much smoother.I like the point source driver the best. Copyright 2022 Klipsch Group, Inc. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. The A7's are really nice from the upper bass to the top end. Look man, I hate to break it to you but all horns shout. On 1/20/2005 8:40:10 AM Al Klappenberger wrote: Guys, The only comparison plots I did was of the K55 on an Altec 511b horn versus on a This is a wonderful pair of Klipschorn Type AK-2 Walnut Veneer in Very Good to Excellent condition. This is a sample of Klipsch's Flagship speaker displayed on their website! Paste as plain text instead, Now whether that is something I have accepted and learned to live with over time or just naturally prefer I cant say, but I am fond of it. bookshelves or whatever to break up reflections. Price: US $4,000.00. You can't crossover the LaScala or Klipschorn that high. Enjoy my friends, now back to our Altec mdl. Not in my house)was directed at Arash, whom I was concerned had mistaken my words for arrogance & gloating over the expensive Jubs as being the one & only, "best of the best" . Paste as plain text instead, I would like to get one of these bass cabinets, mount a 511B I hope you are aware the A7 is an industrial looking box intended to be custom finished for residential use. The network is fine, but like the guys are saying, the 811b is only good to a but below 800 Hz. Waiting on Xenforo to set a date for installing the upgrades. I would like to try a K-55/511b combo running them down to 400 Hz. Makes this a great hobby. Your link has been automatically embedded. Altec Powered by Invision Community, Now that is the toppest of notches you are ever gonna get [Y]. I say LaScala, or Klipschorn because you say 400 horn. The 2019 Klipschorn also offers its own combination of those qualities, one that delights and surprises in some respects (uncolored vocals, surprisingly good spatial performance, much better senses of touch and impact than the average loudspeaker) while disappointing in others (less than the tightest bottom octaves, a trace of grain under strain). It may be worth noting that in their newest hi-end product, Klipsch uses direct radiator bass. Klipschorn mid range upgrade he builds a couple of different size tractrix horns. 811 is 800Hz, 511 is 500Hz, 311 is 300Hz. As someone else said, I'd be happy with either of them. Be sure to try several listening locations. Although I have had Khorns sound good Dr. Mbius - Dee is right. I personally don't care for the Altec horns. They just sound "off" and I dunno how else to describe it. I would much sooner go with an EV or JBL, b I have never been a fan of aluminum or titanium tweeters. The Beyma CP-25 is reputed to be a hands-down improvement over the stock EV T-35 tweeter. The Horns alone have been selling up around $1300 a pair on E-Bay, without the $500 Custom Paint Job these have. http://forums.klipsch.com/idealbb/view.asp?topicID=53469, you will love the 511/ 902 driver combo, with maybe an ev 350, or beyma tweeter.
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